Jerry Buttimer (Fine Gael) | Oireachtas source

-----in terms of their proposals because some of them are as daft as the day is long. We need to have a proper debate about what Seanad reform means and what can be delivered. Then we must decide if we want to go back to the people by way of other referenda to bring about Seanad reform. Those are the real questions. There are differing viewpoints on how we can get there. One size does not fit all and one person does not have the capacity of knowledge. We are not speaking ex cathedrahere. It is about how we can bring it all together.