Jerry Buttimer (Fine Gael) | Oireachtas source

-----better local government. That is not necessarily the issue, Senator Ó Clochartaigh. I agree with Senator Wilson that Putting People First is a fine document for local government. If it were implemented in full, it would be a great document. Senator Wilson should consider the record of the former Minister, Mr. Dempsey, when he was in government and that of his own party and the role he played in decimating the role of councillors-----