Katherine Zappone (Independent) | Oireachtas source

Clearly, from the Minister of State's response, he was a fine educator and I expect that he will be one of the leaders of that revolution that he speaks about.

It has been a useful debate. As Senator Power referred to, even in her own Bill there was not the deletion of this section even though many advocates for many years have argued for that. I thought it was important to put it forward now and to get this kind of response. Our time has not been wasted.

I suppose the heart of my questioning there had to do with the question as to does the Constitution, as the Minister of State said, back up what it is that he is doing, as distinct from deleting the provision, or does it require it not to be deleted. I appreciate he has the legal advice and Senator Power has had legal advice. I have had other legal advice. I have read the Irish Human Rights and Equality Commission's. Legal advice differs. I still stand not fully convinced that the Constitution requires that we keep it. Am I the only dreamer? Am I the only idealist?