David Norris (Independent) | Oireachtas source

I have spoken in rather negative terms about lobbying, as others have done, but I appreciate that there is also very good and informative lobbying that assists in the political debate. I do not see any reason somebody who is registered as a lobbyist should not be able to apply for a grant. I understand where Senator van Turnhout is coming from, but I do not think her concerns are reflected in the text of the Bill. I welcome the opportunity to mention on the record that there are some very good and very valuable lobbyists. I am concerned about the multinationals, the big cigarette corporations and the drinks industry. These sorts of people have a disproportionate influence. It is very often under the radar. We want to expose that. Of course those who lobby for sports or recreational facilities for inner-city children should get their grants. I have no problem with their lobbying to get grants. That is what it is all about. That is part of the political process. It is useful that Senator van Turnhout has proposed this amendment to have this matter ventilated. I am quite sure the Minister will say that the penalising of lobbyists in this fashion is not contemplated by the Bill. I presume his words would have effect and could be quoted in any court case that might arise, although I do not anticipate that such a case will arise.