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Friday, 19 December 2014

Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage

 

5:00 pm

Photo of Labhrás Ó MurchúLabhrás Ó Murchú (Fianna Fail) | Oireachtas source

It is quite clear from the debate we have had for the past six or seven hours that a void exists in this debate regarding including protection for the water of Ireland in Bunreacht na hÉireann. It is even clear in the comments generously put forward by the Minister. It is also clear to those of us who are trying to find a resolution with regard to this that we must find a mechanism. It will not be sufficient to just walk away knowing that there are issues, be they the legal advice from the Attorney General, the opportunity for us to hear that and debate it or whether it is a question of a plebiscite and the extent to which this plebiscite has been properly described or how it will operate. There are so many issues outstanding. I have seldom noticed so many inadequacies in a debate here.

It is also clear from Senator Byrne's comments that a huge effort is being made to accommodate the Minister and Government. This is where we will be aware of whether or not the Minister and Government will accept in partnership co-operation from everybody in this House to find a solution to the logjam that exists. The rationale and logic put forward by Senator Byrne cannot be ignored. On one hand, we cannot put forward an amendment regarding a constitutional referendum. This is as it is, we are bound by that and there is no point in wasting too much time in that regard.

On the other hand, the Government can do that. Interestingly, the Minister has said here on a number of occasions that he will go away and study seriously some of the points that are being made. We take it in good faith that this is his intention. That indicates that there are questions coming to the fore where the Minister is concerned as a result of the debate and the ideas and views. He would not be saying that only for those questions arising. I see no reason why it could not be done through the Constitutional Convention considering the seriousness of the issue and the passion the Minister showed in this Chamber today. It is hugely serious. Do we want to go away for the Christmas break and put people's minds at ease? If we think closing down the Houses of the Oireachtas at Christmas will in some way close down the debate and put people's minds at ease, the Minister knows that is not true. I have no doubt that when he gets down to Tipperary, many a person will want to have a word in his ear because of the uncertainty, suspicions and lack of trust which exists.

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