Caít Keane (Fine Gael) | Oireachtas source

The Minister, Deputy Shatter, has said he did not know but other people did not know either, so it is unfair to say that he is the first Minister who has handled this situation. That recording was already going on. I listened to Mr. John Redmond, the general secretary of the Association of Garda Sergeants and Inspectors, and they did not know.