Terry Leyden (Fianna Fail) | Oireachtas source

That is the point. We are talking about the situation there. Some MPs were raised through peerage or promoted, for example, from a baronet to an earldom, and in a few of those cases direct money bribes were made. I do not think any money bribes were made here but a few people have been promoted quite lavishly by this Government and they have forgotten their roots very fast. They have become very reluctant to acknowledge the fact that they were the very people who would have argued against this. I do not know whether the Minister of State argued in the parliamentary party against this but I doubt if he did because if he did, he would not be in the job he is in today. Deputy Durkan argued against it. Deputy Joanna Tuffy, a fine Labour Party Deputy, argued against this. I do think there is one Fine Gael Senator who will canvass for one vote against the abolition of Seanad Éireann because they would be only going-----