John Kelly (Labour) | Oireachtas source

If the Taoiseach thought anything of us, he should have considered holding this referendum four and a half years into our term. We are trying to do the best we can. Let the people decide after they have seen more of our work.

Seanad reform is necessary and the Whip system that is applied in the House must be lifted. I will support putting the referendum before the people, but I will strongly campaign against the abolition of the Seanad. I compliment Senator Landy on his analysis of local government, democracy, etc. The lone town council in my county has been abolished and the 26 county councillors have been reduced to 18. Now, the Taoiseach wants to get rid of our Senators has well. We will be left with three Deputies.

When I spoke to one of the Minister of State's colleagues some months ago, he told me that he would support the retention of Seanad Éireann. He made the point that, were it not for the Seanad during the debate on the smoking ban, elderly people living in nursing homes would have needed to be wheeled out the back doors to smoke cigarettes. The Seanad picked up on a small factor that was important for elderly and sick people. It was not noticed by the Dáil because Deputies do not have the time. They even admit that. We allow time for every matter that is laid before us.

The people will see through this referendum and be fearful of a single House with a significant majority, given the related powers and dangers and the dictatorial nature of the result. I will put my trust in the people to make the right decision.