Brendan Howlin (Wexford, Labour) | Oireachtas source

If I did not change it, we would be spending €1.5 billion less on the social welfare programme. We are spending €20.2 billion on such measures. The figure for the Fianna Fáil agreed programme is €1.5 billion less. It is difficult to take it from the capital programme, but it is more acceptable than taking it from the social welfare budget.

It is not agreed. We are not agreeing to any guillotine of this legislation. I am not trying to delay this. It is a point of principle. We may not need the time, but there should be no guillotine.