Jimmy Harte (Labour) | Oireachtas source

I thank the Minister of State for attending the House. I agree with Senator Barrett and others on the technical need for this Bill to be passed. Democracy does not come cheaply, however, and we are all aware of the cost of the budget and the pain many people are feeling. As happened in the past, there was a certain constituency of people who said democracy was not working, but it was the road to dictatorship. We must continue with what we know as our democracy. Efficiencies obviously come with this Bill, and as parliamentarians we must welcome all such efficiencies, especially in the running of Parliament. As Senator Barrett said, the Seanad has been instrumental in highlighting issues.

Getting rid of the Seanad might save money, but it is like closing a town library - it might save money but we must continue educating people. One might save ¤1 million in a council area by closing some libraries but what is the real cost of such a move? There are people who would say that both the Dáil and Seanad should be closed. It may satisfy some people and save a few euro but the consequences would be catastrophic.

I commend the Bill to the House. I also commend the Minister of State on introducing further efficiencies and cuts in this Parliament. None the less, the role of the Oireachtas will not be diminished, nor should it be.