Ivana Bacik (Independent)

Having listened to Senator Cullinane without shouting at him, it is inappropriate that he is shouting at me. I am making a fair and reasonable point that any Senator or Deputy or any other person who earns an income and employs somebody out of his or her earned income is creating employment and enabling the employee to pay tax on the earned income. This is not something on which any of us should seek to gain moral advantage. To argue that this practice is of great benefit to the taxpayer is to overstate the case.