Michael Mullins (Fine Gael)

While I agree with much of what Senator Paschal Mooney said, I am confident that the Minister is committed to the continuation of community employment schemes. Where there is a budget of €315 million, it is incumbent on her to ensure we are getting the best bang for our buck. At the same time, I agree with Senator Paschal Mooney's comments on the social dimension. There are many participating in these schemes, particularly in rural areas, who are thereby provided with a reason to get up in the morning. In the absence of the schemes, there would, undoubtedly, be an increase in the number of GP visits and medical costs.

I certainly agree that the schemes should be reviewed with a view to securing greater efficiencies. However, there are schemes throughout the State that are operating very effectively and doing invaluable work as part of the Tidy Towns scheme, in the care of the elderly and providing many other worthwhile services. As everyone is aware, the ban on recruitment is preventing local authorities from taking on staff. In a very effective and efficient way, many of those schemes to which I refer are supplementing the work local authorities are doing in the context of Tidy Towns, etc. At this time of year, when we are trying to attract visitors to towns and villages, the last thing we want to see is litter strewn everywhere. Some of the schemes are doing fantastic work in improving the countryside and the appearance of our towns and villages.

I had a private conversation with the Minister in respect of this matter in recent days. I hope the review will soon be completed because there is some uncertainty with regard to what is happening. I am of the view that there is a need to examine the position with regard to the materials grant. I appeal to the Minister not to reduce this grant too much and ensure that there will be sufficient resources available in order that the good work to which I refer might continue to be done. There is a need for consideration to be given to schemes which are inefficient. We all have a responsibility to ensure that the very best value for money is obtained. It goes without saying that the centralisation of some of the schemes would reduce the level of insurance costs and accountancy and audit fees. I hope it is in this area that the Minister will make the necessary savings. At a time of such high unemployment, there is no doubt that a great deal of valuable work is being done in our communities for a small additional cost. I would like this to continue. I look forward to the completion of the review in the next four to five weeks.