Labhrás Ó Murchú (Fianna Fail)

I hoped the opportunity might arise where we could discuss Ireland's relationship with Europe. I am not talking about the bigger issues of funding or lending. It has struck me forcefully how, throughout its duration and up until very recently, the recession has impacted on our debates in the Seanad. We used to see it on the Order of Business every day but in the last few weeks other issues are now coming to the fore, particularly human rights. That is good and it is important that we salute the people of Ireland for the manner in which they have responded to the recession. When we look at the anti-social behaviour that happened in other countries, there is no doubt that it hindered progress. I can see progress here and I see a sense of confidence coming back. We should salute everyone - the trade unions, the media and everyone who has participated in this exercise.

I seek a debate on the relationship between Ireland and Europe to look at smaller issues. There is an excess of bureaucracy coming out of Europe. I see this at local level, where small indigenous industries want to be active. Someone might want to make cakes and apple tarts at home but they require a stainless steel kitchen and those who want to raise a few hens to lay eggs must register the hens. It has got out of hand. Has it got out of hand because we are over-interpreting these rules while other countries ignore them or should we revisit these issues in Europe? I do not see Cashel getting any big industry in the near future but I see the effort being made by people locally to create jobs. It is important we do not obstruct them in that.