Ivana Bacik (Independent)

I take the Minister's point and it is clear that we want to see white-collar crime covered by this legislation. It is an act that is quite difficult to define precisely and I accept there may be complex investigations involving section 4 theft offences, or those covered in sections 17 and 18. That may be particularly true if there is a range of different offences covered. We all want to ensure, to use drug analogies, that the mules or couriers will not be prosecuted while people at the top levels escape. That is a key issue. We spoke yesterday about the need for enforcement, the strengthening of the Office of the Director of Corporate Enforcement and appropriate resourcing of the Garda, which is part of that matter.

In response to the Minister's anecdote about the man with the chickens, the defendant sounds like Fantastic Mr. Fox. I hope his ending was as happy as Mr. Fox's.