Ann Ormonde (Fianna Fail)

Senator O'Toole recently noted that, in its current form, the Seanad was indefensible. In his contribution on the Order of Business he referred to neutrality, sovereignty and our independence and asked whether these had been weakened by our entering into an agreement with the European Union and the IMF. I do not believe they have because there is nothing wrong with seeking help.

There is now more than ever a compelling requirement for us to examine our political system. Fundamental reform is necessary, particularly in the light of the fact that for the past three months Members on all sides have been point-scoring and trying to gain party political advantage. Therefore, this House must be retained. The debate on reform may not take place before Christmas or prior to the end of the lifetime of this Seanad. I hope I will return to the House following the next election and that the radical reform required will be introduced. I would like Senator O'Toole to be present to support such reform. There is a need for the reform to which I refer to be introduced immediately after the election of the next Seanad.

A number of proposals have been brought forward and I am not surprised that the one which recommends the abolition of the Seanad is gaining popularity, particularly when one considers the exact nature of what has been discussed in the House during the past three months. Members of the public are not tuned in to what is happening here.