Donie Cassidy (Fianna Fail)

I heard Members praise the former Taoiseach, Mr. John Bruton, who was my local Deputy. I often thought it was a big mistake on the part of Fine Gael to treat him in the manner in which he was treated. I fully share the sentiments expressed by Members. He has been an excellent public representative and has a lot of talent and ability, but this is what happens when one is not appreciated in one's party from time to time.

Senators O'Toole, Bacik, Boyle, Mullen and Healy Eames called for a wide-ranging debate on education. I will have no difficulty in allowing time for such a debate and have listened to the views expressed by Members on the issue. However, one must not ignore the enormous contribution made by the Catholic Church, both in Ireland and throughout the world, in educating the down and out and the poorest of the poor. I often referred to Ireland as being the island of saints and scholars on my travels, particularly as Chairman of the Joint Committee on Enterprise and Small Business. Irish missionaries have worked hard for generations to earn for Ireland the respect of the world for what they have done in bringing the faith and education to millions of people.

Senator Bacik again called for a debate on prisons. As I indicated yesterday on the Order of Business and in previous weeks, Members will be able to contribute to such a debate.

As for Senator Buttimer's comments about a debate on the economy, I have already made such a commitment, including on Members' first day back after the recess. Debates on the economy, banking and various financial issues take place every week in the House.

On Senator Leyden's call for a debate on RTE, most of us involved in public life have always appreciated, recognised and acknowledged the tremendous work done by RTE on radio and television during the years, as well as the magnificent individuals who work for it as broadcasters. However, I must support the comments made by Senator Leyden and other colleagues who are at a loss when it comes to the issues of the licence fee and the need for balance. The director general and chairman of the RTE authority might wish to consider the terms of reference attached to RTE's licence on the need for balance. It is unfair on taxpayers who pay the licence fee to be subject to the negative opinion being broadcast; there should also be good news from time to time. I have complimented RTE and always stood behind it. I had my own sponsored programme for four years and made my contribution to the station in other fields, as Senator Mooney knows at first hand. That said, it is never the wrong time to say the right thing as Members and public representatives who are privileged to be here for a short time. RTE have a responsibility to bring the people with it at this difficult time. There are excellent people at the station at chief executive, chairman and board member level of the authority. Everyone in RTE wants to do the right thing and the issue is with the few who are in the business of seeking good TAM ratings. Ultimately, however, one must seek to uplift the people. There is a responsibility in this regard. I will, therefore, facilitate a debate in the House on the matter in response to Senator Leyden's request.