Paschal Mooney (Fianna Fail)

-----particularly, although I do not wish to single them out, the teachers' unions. I have been involved in education for a long time, as a member of a vocational education committee, and the unions which benefited the most from the benchmarking process were the teachers' unions because a range of assistant principal posts and other work titles was created. Not only were the postholders given extra money, the posts were pension linked. They built that structure and now have the temerity to remain outside an agreement to which the vast majority of public service workers have signed up. Good on the Minister of State. If they are not living in the real world, they should be pulled kicking and screaming into it.