Paul Coghlan (Fine Gael)

I have no doubt the Minister of State is top of the class. I would not expect him to be anywhere else. However, there are Departments which we are led to believe are lax and I have no doubt this is true. I was appalled recently to hear about an official in a certain Department - I will not name the official or the Department - who had told a person in a body under the aegis of the Department that he was not interested in making savings. He wanted something else, a direct contribution, but was not interested in making savings. That was a crazy comment for that public servant to make. Allegedly it is true; that is the story as it was relayed to me.

There is so much we could say about the banks, but I will not go into that matter now. I hope we will have a full debate on the issue in the House.