John Paul Phelan (Fine Gael)

I now want to make a lengthy contribution on the value of Seanad Éireann. I thank the Minister and his officials as well. I am only substituting for my colleague, Senator Regan, whose daughter is being conferred in the practice of law today and who could not be here.

I welcome the provisions of the Bill. I cannot say much on the issue of the Seanad other than that I agree with most of what the Minister stated. I do not agree often with Deputy Dermot Ahern on issues, but on that issue I do agree.