Lisa McDonald (Fianna Fail)

I am glad Senator Walsh went into more detail, despite the late hour, because he gave us a broader understanding of where he is coming from. I fundamentally disagree with him in much of what he said. I still believe what the Minister is saying is correct. There is absolutely no need for the amendments because as a society we have come to the position of civil status. To suggest that there are married couples who, through no fault of their own, cannot conceive-----