John Paul Phelan (Fine Gael)

I do not get too hot and bothered about the rules of the House, but if business is ordered to commence at 5 p.m., it should commence at that time. I am not giving out about Senator Ó Murchú who was hauled in to propose the motion, but surely the Government could have had Members here to speak at least within five minutes so as not to leave other Members waiting. I understand Members have to attend other meetings, but those of us who came to the Chamber at 5 p.m. also have meetings we would like to attend. It is a ham-fisted way for the House to operate.