Joe O'Reilly (Fine Gael)

That is the case. I am also concerned that a link might be made between the call for such a debate and the sex abuse scandal. There is no evidence to suggest there is a link or that Catholic schooling as currently constituted is in any way a contributory factor in or linked with child abuse. It is important this distinction is made and that it is clear we are not talking about the same thing. While we would welcome a discussion of the organisational structure, we cannot make that connection. It is vital that we point out that there is no connection between Catholic schooling and sex abuse. There have been isolated cases -----