Joe O'Toole (Independent)

As key performance indicators. I could go further than that, but if the Senator wants to raise a few more issues I shall bury those out of sight as well. That type of stuff reflects for me the difficulty of reform. All my life I have argued, mainly with my own people, about the difficulty of managing change, how important it is to a progressive society and what needs to be done in the public sector. I am delighted that the Taoiseach has now established a post for public sector reform and that the Minister of State, Deputy Dara Calleary, has responsibility for that. I certainly will be of any assistance I can to him in that regard. I have ideas on how to do it straight away. Instead of complaining about things, it is preferable to put forward solutions. There is a very simple solution to the issue of people coming in and out of the public sector. If every promoted post in the Civil Service was open to competition, this could be dealt with.

There is no point in the Senator nodding his head. His party has been in Government for the past 15 years-----