John Gerard Hanafin (Fianna Fail)

That is not the only group. Some groups claim that foreign fleets have taken €200 billion worth of fish out of the Irish seas since we joined the EU. It is also wildly exaggerated when €8 billion is the correct figure. A television programme in the past two days claimed that €2 billion was being defrauded from the social welfare system without any proof whatsoever. These figures will be used by people to misrepresent the situation, perhaps in the full knowledge that €2 billion is not being defrauded. There are questions to be asked on these issues.