John Paul Phelan (Fine Gael)

I understand the Minister of State's logic and explanation but it seems ironic to propose legislation designed to ensure the activities uncovered in FÁS do not reoccur while completely ignoring the major source of the activities and difficulties which arose. I understand it is undesirable for the Minister to have a direct involvement. However, this amendment is very specific in that it limits the category of employee affected to a small number of senior managers within the organisation. It spells out specifically the criteria under which the Minister may become involved. We have seen a litany of abuse of public expenditure by certain senior managers within FÁS over a protracted period. Any legislation that seeks to remedy that but which does not seek to deal with the people directly responsible is deficient. I understand the Minister of State's explanation but I do not accept it. A similar provision, although not necessarily worded in the manner of this amendment, should be accepted to ensure such activities do not recur in the future.