David Norris (Independent)

I support the amendment in principle. It is the very point I raised on Second Stage. The triple lock mechanism does not include Seanad Éireann. If there was a method to provide for consultation with Seanad Éireann, that would be very welcome. The reason I did not table an amendment was that I was advised there was a constitutional prohibition of some kind. If a referendum of some sort is required for reform of the Seanad, which I do not believe would be necessary, then this is something that should be contemplated by the Government, that is, to include the Upper House of Parliament in these very important matters. I understand there is a constitutional prohibition but the Minister, along with his advisers, may be able to find some mechanism for at least consultation with Seanad Éireann. That is very important.

These are vital matters and could be matters of life and death involving Irish citizens risking their lives. Seanad Éireann certainly has a role to play in this. It might have a voice which would be of use. Although we do not have a role in this matter, I have been contacted by a member of the Defence Forces whose material was anonymous. He is very concerned about the state of readiness, equipment and investment in the Army. It is very difficult to raise these issues at this point because the country is in such economic difficulties. I would not be able to urge them strongly. However, it is significant. Previously, I have been contacted about various military matters and to neuter Seanad Éireann in this way in the 21st century is absurd.