Jerry Buttimer (Fine Gael)

I agree with Senator Fitzgerald and ask that the Minister for Justice, Equality and Law Reform, Deputy Dermot Ahern, come to the House as a matter of extreme urgency. We have seen an increase in what are called tiger kidnappings but the reality is that families are being traumatised. I compliment Larry Broderick of the IBOA who spoke on the radio this morning and was clear, cogent and made a very good case on behalf of the IBOA. What land is the Minister, Deputy Ahern, living in when he refers to adhering to protocols? I want to put a straight question to the Leader, man to man. What would the Minister, Deputy Ahern, or any of us do if our wife and three children had a gun put to our heads and shots fired over our heads at 6.15 in the morning? We certainly——