Joe O'Toole (Independent)

I propose an amendment to the Order of Business. I regret that the Leader on his own, without any contact or agreement with me or anyone else, changed Private Members' time. As he has made some time available to discuss an issue with the Minister for Health and Children, I suggest that time would be better spent discussing the row between the Ombudsman for Children and the HSE rather than swine vesicular disease, which the Government is handling very well. That is my amendment to the Order of Business.

I especially want to do it because Senator Fitzgerald's point is correct. There is a lack of information. Subject to being corrected, it is my belief that the problem is that the HSE has documentation it got half-filled by the Roman Catholic Church which refused to give the full information in the Ferns and Dublin investigations. This is the documentation solicitors and lawyers for the Roman Catholic Church are saying may not be made available to the ombudsman. To the public eye the ombudsman and the HSE are involved in a row. I would like to get it all out in the open. There is an opportunity for the Minister to deal with that now and for us to be topical and useful in dealing with that.