Ann Ormonde (Fianna Fail)

I agree with my colleagues in condemning the brutal murders in the North. I extend my sympathy to the families of those murdered and injured. The exercise is purely to derail the political process and put down a trap to lure the British troops back on to the streets. As many have said, there is no going back. As Senator Harris said, if the names are known, and they are known, they should be rounded up. There must be co-operation on each side by the police. Those people must be rounded up. There is no going back and that is reflected. I do not know what more I can say. Those people are a different breed. They will not listen to what we say today. They are not interested in what we are saying. They would have a big laugh at that. We must take action, and the only way to do that is through police and military co-operation North and South. That is the only way forward. I endorse many of the points raised by Senator Harris this afternoon.

On another issue, I call for a debate on the reform of education and training, which was mentioned in today's report of the National Competitiveness Council. It is a very good report which highlights areas where new courses will perhaps have to be introduced to reflect the skills shortage, and new ideas will be needed in regard to how we attract young people to become more involved in mathematics, science, investment and technology. As has been said, while the lack of input into CAO courses in engineering and architecture is a sign of the times, we must not deflect from future growth in employment in that area, which must happen.

The report is worthy of debate in the House on how we move forward and how we implement its good aspects. I ask the Leader to fit this into the agenda at some time so we can debate the report.