Joe O'Toole (Independent)

Issues arise on both sides in regard to topics and the length of the Order of Business. It is important that we deal with issues pertaining to how we do our business. I ask the Leader to arrange a half-day debate soon after our return from the Christmas break.

I agree with Senator Fitzgerald on the Lisbon treaty. It is a further example of the Oireachtas being left aside. These issues should be discussed by both Houses today. I would like a Minister — I do not care which one — to set out for us what the Government is washing through Europe, what it is bringing forward and the issues it wants addressed. I want to know what is being sought in the areas of sovereignty, neutrality, taxation, conscription and the right to life. I ask the Leader to bring our comments to the attention of the Government. It is welcome that the Government wants to take ownership of this issue but it also needs the participation of others, irrespective of whether they are for or against the treaty. We need to show leadership by holding a debate in these Houses prior to Christmas. Surely, whatever the Taoiseach discusses with European leaders today should be considered by political representatives in this country.

I support the Government in its actions on the pork issue.