Ann Ormonde (Fianna Fail)

I agree with everything Senator Norris said. He used the phrase "acceptable level of violence". I agree there is no such thing as an acceptable level of violence.

I can see from where the Minister of State is coming on this in that different countries cannot have different standards in their definitions and that we must go with global thinking on this. However, it is sloppy language, which we must accept if we are to make progress in regard to the abolition of cluster bombs. This section is weak. While I have no wish to hold up what is being done here today, that is my view. If this means we move a step further in obtaining a ban on cluster munitions, I will go along with it. Perhaps we should keep the matter on the agenda for future reference.