David Norris (Independent)

On the Order of Business, there is somebody here who will be aware of my comments and with whom I usually agree, namely, Senator Hannigan.

With regard to the Russian matter — it is all tied in with Obama — and its decision regarding a possible siting of military equipment in the Kaliningrad area, we have never tried to understand the Russians. There has been no attempt to do that. It has all been completely one-sided. It is very useful in these areas to look at the mirror image or reverse it and see what the position would be if the boot was on the other foot. If, for example, what the Americans and NATO have been doing with regard to Russia had been attempted by the Warsaw Pact, if they had put missiles in places like Mexico, Venezuela and so on — they tried it in Cuba — and enlisted them into the Warsaw Pact, there would have been hysteria from the Americans.