David Norris (Independent)

We will have to return to the international financial crisis. I am confused because Senator Butler stated that it was a disgrace for Fine Gael to say that the Minister did not understand the situation, then he accused Fine Gael of not understanding the situation either. I am not fully sure I understand the situation, or that I have heard anybody who has given a clear, comprehensive view of how we can get out of it. I am somewhat reassured, having listened to my distinguished colleague, Senator Ross, on "Today With Pat Kenny", on how to cope with the situation. He was joined by Mr. Nick Leeson, who agreed with him that there should be a bloodletting at the top of the banks——