Ned O'Sullivan (Fianna Fail)

They are dedicated and hard working. They know what is required of education. While of its nature there will sometimes be confrontation between Government and Departments and the teaching professions, I would advise him to talk to the teachers' unions. I was a member of two of them in my time and a lot of good ideas are forthcoming from them.

The motion is one I could not possibly support. If at this early stage Senator Healy Eames is anguished by the situation in education, which I argue is pretty solid, I am very worried that by the end of this Seanad term she will be getting very shrill indeed because it is obvious that hard times are coming——