David Norris (Independent)

Senator Mullen made some effective points, especially when he referred to the previous debate. I do not want to rehearse the whole debate because that would be tedious and it is already on the record. When the Bill goes to the other House, Members of it will have an opportunity to consider the whole debate, including Second and Committee Stages. We are now on Report Stage and it is not the time to be overwhelmingly tedious and while I am not suggesting that anyone has been, I might well be in danger of so being.

It is interesting that the Minister said he was philosophically in agreement with me and Senator Regan, yet he is acting in the opposite direction. That suggests, to use the American phrase, that the Minister is conflicted. I simply point that out. He mentioned the Sullivan case.