Dick Roche (Wicklow, Fianna Fail)

Those are two fair questions. On the first question, there is no reason for professional people with expertise to fear. There are many distinguished people who operated as architects in this State over the years who did not necessarily have that formal arrangement. They are not in any way imperilled by this. That was the point Senator O'Toole raised earlier and I apologise for not addressing it. There is no rational reason that such persons should have any fears or concerns about this because if it arises for technical assessment, they will present their own work. This was the point Senator Leyden raised during our last debate on this matter. When we have completed the set-up period and the process is underway, people who are not members of the RIAI but who have been recognised as architects will be able to serve after election by their own organisation.