Ulick Burke (Fine Gael)

I welcome the Minister of State to the House. The Minister said she came in to deal with health reform but her statement was that it was meaningless to most people. Those are her words, open to correction on the blacks when they come out eventually. When a Minister for Health and Children says that reform is meaningless to most people, surely that is a clear admission of the fact that the reform that has taken place to date is meaningless. That is the core of the crisis today.