Mary O'Rourke (Fianna Fail)

It got a great hearing. I speak from personal experience. When I was Minister for Public Enterprise there were times when the first five items on the agenda related to that Department. My attitude was that was life and we had to tackle those items. It is not the case that everything is rosy and that everybody is basking in contentment about the health service and its staff.

Senator O'Toole did not mention the person of whom he was speaking, but we all know of whom he was speaking. During my time as Minister, that same person was appointed to the chair of Aer Lingus and he — not Willie Walsh — saved the airline. The Senators may not like it.