Mary O'Rourke (Fianna Fail)

The way people carry on would lead one to think it was the only way to turn out a child. Senator Fitzgerald spoke on that subject. School should produce rounded people who can mix with others and all abilities should be catered for.

Senator Bannon asked about Leas Cross and VAT on charities. He attended the annual general meeting of the Longford Association for the Mentally Handicapped, for which I commend him. He said the charity had paid €157,000 in VAT. There are constant requests to reduce VAT and every case put forward is a good one. However, I take his point and if the Minister comes before the House, the Senator can make it to him.

The Senator also asked for a debate on the Barr report, which is another we are trying to arrange. We have a wish list but it is a matter of people being free to come to the House. However, the Senator is right because it is a fine report and should be debated in one of the Houses. I have not neglected it and it is one of the ones we try to arrange each week.

I agree with Senator Fitzgerald's point about real education. Senator Browne asked for a debate on accident and emergency services. He is taking part in the fun run in the tunnel. If he gives me a card I will sign it, if it is for a charity.