Michael McDowell (Dublin South East, Progressive Democrats)

I do not know. I would say Senator Tuffy has seen the execution of many more documents than I have in my time because barristers rarely see them executed. I always thought witnessing a signature meant being physically present when the signature was carried out rather than coming in afterwards and somehow countersigning it at a later point. I may be wrong on that and I do not want to embarrass anybody but I do not believe one would be a witness if one did not actually witness the signature. For instance, in the case of a will, if one did not see it being signed, I do not believe one would be a witness to it. I could, however, be wrong on that and there could be some——