John Dardis (Progressive Democrats)

There is no difficulty about the poachers. Of course there are other factors involved. The issues of global warming, silting and forestry are also factors. There are many factors, but this is the dominant factor. If Senators heard Dr. Ken Whelan, who is one of the world's most eminent experts in this area, on the radio this morning, they would have heard him clearly explaining to anybody who is in any doubt why mixed stock fishing must end. Such fishing takes place at sea and nowhere else.