Mary O'Rourke (Fianna Fail)

Senator Norris signalled the forum in Dublin Castle, A New Heart for Dublin, arranged by Senator Morrissey. Well done to Senator Morrissey.

Senator Norris also referred to the sinister attempt to undermine the Taoiseach by sending forged letters to the tribunal, and he made this point very forcefully.

Senator Kitt called for a debate on local government and housing. Once upon a time, a long-term loan from a local authority was the prize thing to have, but times have now changed and interest rates have decreased. However, we simply must have a debate on housing.

Senator Coghlan asked about the defamation Bill. All that I can tell him in that regard is that I have been told it is intended for this session. He spoke of the validation of planning applications, which is a major issue. When a couple or single person submits a planning application, it can be three or four weeks before the validation notice is issued. The whole thing starts to move only after validation, adding to the time involved. The Senator asked for No. 24, statements on planning and related issues, to be resumed.

Senator Leyden contended that ESB charges should now be reduced because of the falling oil price. However, one must remember that some supply contracts are historic. He also dealt with certain other matters. Senator Henry raised the question of the Minister for Health and Children's plans to build private hospitals on public land and asked if we might discuss the issue. We are endeavouring to get hold of the Minister for Health and Children among others. Like me, Senator Bannon wished to discuss the Abbeylara report, but it is a matter of prevailing upon the Minister for Justice, Equality and Law Reform, who is involved in legislation in the other House, to attend.

Senator Maurice Hayes asked that we discuss the IMC report once it has been issued as part of a general Northern debate. On the matter of middle-income earners being penalised and allowances for living in cities, Senator Bannon gave a fine speech about the Progressive Democrats. He has one in his own area now, and I am sure she will show great gusto in dealing with him.