David Norris (Independent)

Yes, but that professor referred to the whole situation. The Minister has rubbished such views. The general burden of the case the Minister made in the beginning was that persons like ourselves could get an injunction but other persons could not. He is absolutely right and I agree with him. Is that calamitous situation not a catastrophic criticism of the legal process here? We pose as people who protect all the people and as a society in which everybody has rights, but why do people in these circumstances not have access to free legal aid? They should have access to free legal aid. I agree that people should not be tortured; I never said they should.