Mary O'Rourke (Fianna Fail)

It is not such an issue. It was very worthy of Senator Hayes to raise the matter in the way he did. He went on to say that he thought political parties would give a free vote to their members. I fear that will not be the case, but I hope the debate will not reach that point. I admire the fact that members of the same parties in Europe were able to divide on the issue without rancour. One of the good things about the system in Europe is that each speaker is limited to three minutes, which provides very little time for rancour to be displayed. I hope we are in for a period of civilised discussion and not an array of postcards with demands. It is not that kind of an issue.

Senator O'Toole asked for a serious debate on co-ordination and regulation in our first week back. We will not get around to debating it next week and I have a statement to give on that matter. We hope to have such a debate on our first week back. The last time the Tánaiste came here to debate such a matter she did so as Minister for Enterprise, Trade and Employment. One might think that is an incongruous Department for such a debate, but she came in that guise because of the research possibilities of that work. Therefore, I do not know whether the Tánaiste or the Minister for Enterprise, Trade and Employment, Deputy Martin, will attend the debate. The Senator also spoke about The Irish Times opening up its archives for schools and the wonderful work which will be done. The schools are being very pro-active and that is excellent.

Senator Ryan stated that targeting civilians and an oppressed people is profoundly wrong. Targeting children, knocking out power stations and blowing up water reservoirs is equally wrong. I am also glad to see that the Senator received an apology.

Senator Dardis also raised the issue of stem cell research and stated that it was not a simple matter of right and wrong. He also stated that he asked the Finnish European Affairs Minister to ensure that the Finnish Presidency kept the Palestinian question high on the EU agenda.

Senator Finucane spoke about the maverick train drivers who hold up a day's travelling. It is easy to say that it is a trade union matter, but the trade unions have been very spirited about it and have stated openly that they do not condone these actions. It is very difficult for a trade unionist to impose his or her will on the spot. I take the Senator's point about people being left high and dry.

Senator Ó Murchú stated that a debate was necessary on stem cell research and that votes of conscience should be allowed. I wish that were the case. He spoke about the human rights situation in the Middle East. Senator Norris referred to the water supply in Palestine and asked whether Senator Marty should appear before the House. The Committee on Procedure and Privileges took a view that people we invite would be of a particular calibre. That is not to condemn Senator Marty, but I do not know how to put it in words. The committee stated that such people should be of international calibre. The proposal can be put to the CPP.