John Dardis (Progressive Democrats)

Senator Ryan and I agree on one particular aspect of this matter, which is that it is not simple. The House has an good tradition of debating extremely difficult and sensitive moral issues without heat and in a balanced and fair way. I particularly recall when the all-party committee reported on the matter of the X case and abortion. We must be careful in our use of language and our reactions. It arouses strong emotions and feelings, which is understandable.

It is claimed, which I believe is correct, that a moral clause should exist whereby in matters of conscience people should be able to vote as they wish. It is a rule in my party and on occasions we voted in different ways and I accept what Senator Brian Hayes stated. If such a moral clause exists, it should apply to Government Ministers in the same way as to every other Member.