Martin Mansergh (Fianna Fail)

I agree with Senator O'Toole's call for a debate on road freight policy. He referred to the Limerick-Rosslare line as an example but if the closure of the Mallow sugar factory had been foreseen three years ago perhaps the bridge over the viaduct in Cahir would not have been repaired. We can take great satisfaction in the development and modernisation of all our passenger rail services, including Luas. However, freight services have been run down and we will have to grit our teeth and provide some subsidy, which is the case in practically every other country. The Department of Finance may not, however, be in favour.

Senator O'Toole also referred to Guinness. I have happy memories of the little steam trains going from the Guinness depot into Heuston Station. God be with those days.