Mary O'Rourke (Fianna Fail)

She is long off the scene, no doubt. We will not mention her. She was a secondary school teacher.

Senator Ryan asked about the RTE reporter being filmed with the British troops in Iraq and suggested he was giving credence to reports. The Senator described the war in Iraq as illegal and immoral. I too described it in that way, and got my knuckles rapped. I still believe that war is illegal and immoral.

Senator Mansergh said we should cautiously welcome the LVF announcement, which we should. He noted that two reports have studied the matter of access to democratic institutions. One was by the Oireachtas All-Party Committee on the Constitution and the other was the Seanad reform committee. Senator Mansergh also welcomed the transport plan.

Senator Finucane said the transport plan was a rehash of fairytales which we all heard some time ago. I never heard of all the new Luas lines, nor of the two metro lines.