Shane Ross (Independent)

I endorse what Senator Brian Hayes said. It would be appropriate for us to debate the Morris tribunal reports in a calm and not hysterical manner. Senator Brian Hayes used the word "systemic". As it is convenient, we have for a long time been happy to dismiss the difficulties, brutalities and wrongdoing of some members of the Garda Síochána as bad apples in a good force. The questions that must now be asked are, how many bad apples are there to be rooted out, how systemic this is, whether there really is a kind of disease within the Garda Síochána that must be rooted out and if it is ingrained or only a case of some bad apples. It is convenient for us to say that kind of thing happens in Donegal——