Joe O'Toole (Independent)

It was beneath the Senator. The Pensions Board is composed of hard-working people with a hard-working chief executive who do their best under extraordinarily difficult circumstances. If I had the time, I could speak further on this. However, I agree with Senator Ross about the people who are making money out of pensions, particularly about his crowd, that is, the stockbrokers, actuaries and investors. He was right in that regard but wrong about the rest.