Mary White (Fianna Fail)

That is fine. The Minister for Education and Children spoke about how she had the honour of being appointed by Charles Haughey to the Higher Education Authority for a number of years when he was Taoiseach. She also stated that Michael Kelly's breadth of expertise and his proven track record in the area of structural reform will allow the Higher Education Authority to give leadership and direction to the wider reform agenda in the higher education sector. I have a business relationship with Mr. Kelly, but I do not know him on a personal level. Senator Finucane has just left the Chamber.